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On this week's episode of Share Other Struggle Podcast, Ali Steeks Closure, and together we embrace faith as we do something for the very first time as a family.
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Let me tell you something.
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Everybody struggles.
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The difference is some people choose to go through it and some choose to grow through it.
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The choice is completely yours.
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Which one you choose will have a very profound effect on the way you live your life.
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Find the strength and the struggle.
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And this podcast is for relationship that is comfortable with uncomfortable conversations.
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Uncomfortable conversations.
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What it do?
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What it ha did it do?
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Glord almighty.
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Am I so excited to be back with you?
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Oh, it is true.
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It is damn true.
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Episode 276, and I am back with your weekly fix.
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I say weekly because y'all know we do this every damn week.
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276 consecutive weeks.
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Thank you to all our new listeners and our day one loyal listeners.
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Get your ones up.
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We acknowledge you.
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And we love you.
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And I say we because I'd be joined by somebody today.
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That's me.
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Our baby loves to put her ones up.
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She does.
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Our little one loves to put her ones up.
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Absolutely loves it.
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She is a day one.
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Faux show.
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Of her life.
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Right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So we needed to do this episode together because uh we did something together, and I want to discuss that.
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But more importantly, this is kind of a um a finale of something that you've been uh going through, growing through, having to deal with, um, having to, you know, handle and process some unfortunate things that happened.
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It's kind of the hopefully the closure portion of that.
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As I said in the beginning of the podcast, this week you are seeking closure and we are embracing faith.
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And um I just think it was a great time for you to come on here and really just hopefully be able to close that chapter out with our listeners.
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There's something that you've been sharing over the past few months, and uh, just wanted to give you the time and opportunity to talk about talk about that.
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Yeah, we um finally put together we I was invited, I should say, to the closure of laying my mom to rest.
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Um, if you're new here, um my mom uh took her own life uh back in April.
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Um she was battling addiction and unfortunately the demons in her closet won.
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Um it has been a little bit of a long, drawn-out process based on the circumstances um of what she did and uh investigation on that, along with trying to come up with the funds, um because this was very unexpected um for my brother and I.
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And so with that being said, uh it's now October and um the plans were um set in place by my brother uh to make sure that she laid to rest where she wanted to be more than she wanted to be here on earth, and that was with her dad.
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Um, so we took the opportunity to uh join family and friends.
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Um and on Saturday we laid her with her dad.
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And it was a very small um gathering, but it was people that actually mattered uh that were there, and everyone reached out and tried to help my mom in some way, shape, or form.
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And um it was it was a lot of closure for all of us.
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Uh we all took the time to kind of said something nice um or said our piece, whatever we had to say, um, surrounding her ashes.
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Uh and then we all kind of went our separate ways and some of us joined up for for lunch after.
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But um this has been a long, drawn-out process, and I know that I've said that a couple times already, but it has been.
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Um more times than I can count.
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I constantly just said I just want it to be over.
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I just want it to be ever older so that I can close this chapter and start my healing journey.
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Um, because this has not uh been able to I haven't been able to heal, to be honest.
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Um I constantly find myself going downtown, still looking for her.
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Um, if I see, you know, a bunch of homeless people or or you know, where I normally would see her kind of um hanging out.
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Um so I prayed that by going to this ceremony gathering, um, it would give me the closure to kind of uh let go and and move on.
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Um and I don't want to like let go of like my mom.
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That's not what I'm saying, and I don't want that to be taken that way.
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I just want to let go of uh her death and anything um toxic that I'm still holding on to based on those circumstances.
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She's my mom, and obviously, like I, you know, will hold that in my heart.
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We didn't have the best relationship, but you know, she was my mom, and that's how I want to remember her.
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I want to remember her on, you know, the good times that we shared.
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Unfortunately for me, there there wasn't as many good times as there was bad, but I still want to hold those close to me.
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Um, and I think that um after Saturday I felt a quite large breath of fresh air.
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Um a huge weight has been lifted off of my shoulders.
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Um, I don't necessarily feel bogged down anymore because there was just a little bit of something lingering that was just kind of holding me down and um not allowing me to get out of my own way, I guess you could say.
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I think it's tough when when you lose somebody no matter what the circumstance is, and you go through that prescribed grieving time, right?
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Where the shock of the situation, a family gets together, and then traditionally family kind of huddles together and they're there for each other, and they work through three things together, and then you plan the service, and you have those those times where like everybody's together and you're all trying to um you know just offer strength and support and healing for each other.
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And if anybody's ever been through this, you know that one of the most difficult days comes when you have the service and then you get that behind you, like the reality of it being over and then the closure that's there.
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Like, that's the prescribed grieving that comes from like modern civilization and how things typically work, right?
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Oftentimes you can have a disturbance in that where maybe it's the winter time and somebody wants to be buried, and um you know, so you might go all winter without having those things.
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It was different circumstances for you, but that pre-prescribed, predetermined like time of grieving, which everybody grieves differently.
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And I'm not saying you're ever gonna get over it in a week, but I'm just saying traditionally, that's what we're used to, right?
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Used to family all getting together for you.
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This was a time that didn't unite a family, it in fact divided a family.
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It wasn't a time that brought anybody really together.
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There wasn't a lot of um positive support, and and um there was no like, hey, I'm here for you, let's heal together scenario.
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And then you have to then put on the fact that now we're talking months without any answers, months without you know, when is this gonna happen?
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How's this gonna happen?
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What's gonna happen, all those things.
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So, because of that, a lot has been left open for you.
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Where I think that maybe your heart or your mind starts to wander, wondering, like like you said, I'm downtown and I'm looking I'm looking for her, you know, I'm thinking about all these things.
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So I think that you really needed that closure um to happen, you know.
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If anybody wants to know more about your journey uh through all of this, because I think the biggest thing about all of this is the fact that you've been strong and brave and courageous enough to share your story in hopes that it helps somebody and um maybe either helps somebody that is addicted or helps family and friends get through the battle of having a loved one that's addicted.
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But the episodes in which you had these discussions, um episode 250, Loving an Addict, A Daughter's Journey to Healing, Episode 251, Breaking Free, A Journey Through Shamanic Reiki, and Episode 252, Finding Freedom, A Daughter's Final Conversation.
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I think all of those episodes really help um people to get through their own grief, you know, maybe how to respond to things, different alternative ways to heal.
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And all those things were great, but I still think that you needed this service, even though it was short, like to be something to kind of make like a uh I don't know, a symbol of finality, right?
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It had to be something that put an end to like your your mind and heart always searching.
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Yeah, it had to be like their final destination, not the movie, but like me going to the to the grave side and like seeing seeing there was a hole and that her urn was gonna go in it is just for real and it's just it's just heartbreaking because like her and I didn't have a good relationship as much as I tried.
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And I have no regrets um of all the amount of time that I've tried.
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Um but I prayed day in and day out that I could have a mother-daughter relationship and to see her earn there and to see her pictures, to know that there's never gonna be an opportunity for me to try again for her to get sober and do the right thing, and maybe we mend our relationship, or maybe we start from scratch.
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That's not an option.
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And that sucks.
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Um because if you've been here long enough, you know that this isn't the first time that I've lost my mom.
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Um, so this brings back a whole lot of a whole lot of memories.
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Um I was raised by my grandmother, um, and she passed away when I was 17.
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Um, so this is bringing up a whole lot of emotions and a whole lot of hurt all over again.
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Um, and I think the hardest thing for me is knowing that I'm a mom.
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I'm a mom now.
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And I never, ever want my daughter to feel that she can ever have a relationship with me.
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And seeing those the poster of pictures of me and my mom where she was happy and she wasn't there was no addiction at our wedding was just probably the last time that I remember um her in a good mood.
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Uh and we had a good time.
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And I try to remember that time at our wedding.
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Our wedding day specifically, because she certainly let her hair down and had a good time.
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Which is really hard.
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But it's okay.
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It's easier now.
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I know that she's not hurting.
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I know that she's not searching for food.
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Um, I know that she's where she needs to be.
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No longer No pain of any sort.
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And not begging to be with her dad in heaven.
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So um I have since the service uh drove around town and didn't look for her because I knew she was where she needed to be.
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Um and she was at her resting place.
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Yeah.
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I think that or we know that everybody heals different, and we all grieve differently, and I do feel like healing and grieving are they're they're lifelong battles, you know.
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It doesn't get answered overnight, but everybody's different, and there's certain things everybody needs to do and experience for um that that closure to to come.
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And I know that this um the service, this this burial, you needed that to happen to kind of close this chapter on many things in your life, but to put a lot of things in the past and say, you know, from this point on, like I'm gonna do right for me and my daughter and my family.
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And there's a lot of decisions and choices that you've made, and this really signifies the beginning of a lot of things for you, yeah, and hopefully the opening of new chapters and and a rebirth of yourself essentially, and part of that is a commitment that you've made to yourself um over the course of the year, and I know that you've kind of talked about this, but I really think that this quest was ramped up for you when you learned about the passing of your mother.
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If you want to share um the second kind of portion of this with everybody, I think that's another major major important thing.
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So, following the information that I had heard about my mom's passing, um it's like you said, shock.
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Like you don't know what you're supposed to be doing, what's the right answer?
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Do I answer my phone?
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Do I not?
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That sort of thing.
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Um so at one point directly after after the news, I had found myself doom scrolling um on TikTok trying to just clear my mind, and I had actually come across a TikTok live.
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Um, the lady's name is Michelle, and we've talked about it briefly.
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Um and she was on there talking about um scripture and devotionals, and was reading from the Bible, they were reading a specific uh chapter, and she was going over that.
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And I for whatever reason I was scrolling, like I said, and it had stopped me dead in my tracks.
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And Michelle's warm voice on the TikTok was really just what I needed.
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It was like a motherly, nurturing voice that I needed to soothe my heart at the moment.
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Um, and she had mentioned during her live that if anyone was willing to give their life to God, that she would pray with them and she would recite the savior's prayer.
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And at that time I didn't know what that meant.
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Um, but if but she said, if you're ready, write I'm ready in the comments.
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I had just found out that my mom had taken her own life hours before this.
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My mind is not right.
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I am doom scrolling on TikTok trying to keep my mind right.
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And it was like word vomit.
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My hands typed, I'm ready.
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I don't know what I'm ready for.
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But apparently I was ready.
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And at that moment, I went ahead and recited the Savior's prayer with Michelle, and at that time she explained, you know, it when you're ready, we'll go through this, and this is your time to give it to God.
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Anything that you're uncertain of, now's the chance.
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Give it to God, and that right there is where I was at.
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I was in the moment that I was so uncertain of what to do next and where to go that I was in the moment of give it to God because I don't know.
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And following that prayer, Michelle and I had kind of a conversation back and forth um in the comment section, and she asked me if I had a Bible, and uh I said no, I didn't.
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She sent me one, and from that moment I received the Bible, I got tabs for it, I got a binder cover.
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Um, and I made the commitment to myself that I was gonna read the Bible in a year.
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Uh, my friend, um, a friend of ours, um, Shannon, she shared with me an app that you can download on your phone and you can pick the Bible that you want to read, and they go through um a chapter a day.
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Um, and I have decided that once I've finished that Bible in a year, I want to become baptized.
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Um and I think that this is my way of making a commitment to changing my life and leaning more towards my faith.
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And honestly, I I can't thank Michelle enough for having that live.
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I've actually taken the time, and she's asked me to share my testimony on her live, and I did that probably um about a month ago at this point.
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And it's just so amazing.
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She had no idea that her live would have changed me, um, or at least uh pointed me towards God in more ways.
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Would I have gotten there?
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I'm sure of it.
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But it was her live that actually was like, you're you're ready, do this.
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And so I've been reading my Bible.
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Um I I'm not gonna lie, I listen to my Bible.
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I can't read.
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I mean, I can read, but I don't know what I'm reading, I can't retain what I'm reading.
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So I'm I'm holding strong on this, and uh following the service, I said to you that I want to go to church.
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I had done some research on a couple of local churches, um church shopping, I guess you could say.
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I think um it's a great time here to say that you know, both of us over the past couple years.
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Well, I guess just to say like over the past couple years, I've always talked about trying to lean into my faith more, and I try to make the commitment to reading the Bible, and I always end up losing my way, and every year I start the new year off with trying to um make the commitment to myself to lean into it more, and then by the middle of the year I'm right off track again, you know.
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And um, it's time for me to take that serious in my life as well.
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And um you being on this journey has been a motivator to me because I felt like for the longest time I was the only one on that journey, and um, I think it's just anything in life is easier with support, and um I have been curious about finding a church and finding the right one as well, as you say, church shopping, because you want to fit, right?
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You just you want to fit, you want to feel comfortable, and you also want to be inspired and and motivated.
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And there's I just think back to when I was a little kid in certain like church situations where you're like I don't know, I don't even know the right way to explain it, but maybe getting lost and confused and not knowing what was going on, and I need somebody to break things down and relate to them um in today's life and time so I can understand it, you know.
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And um I've never I've been I was baptized and I've been to church, but traditionally I only go to church for weddings and funerals, right?
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And um I've always talked about joining a church, or at least I shouldn't say always over the past couple years, but I've also been slightly afraid to do so as well, you know.
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Um and it can be intimidating, and I think that religion itself can be intimidating for so many folks because you know there's all these things like what do I do?
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Like what's what's asked of me, you know.
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Um everything just seems to have so much tradition, and you know, it's you build this thing up in your in your mind of like kind of being overwhelmed.
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And um, so when we first started talking about this, um originally started because we met um Father Neto and we wanted to be able to go to some of his services, yeah, but it's just turned into a whole different journey that we've been on.
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And um when you came to me and said I want to go to church on Sunday, I was I don't think I originally even gave a thought.
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I said, Yeah, I'm in.
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And then after I kind of gave it a lot of thought and said, like, now's the time.
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Now's the time.
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And for me, I had to really call truths with myself and say, you've been proclaiming your faith for years, but in reality, you're not committing to it at the level in which you should.
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And um, you know, you can feel hypocritical in in doing that.
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So I said, call yourself to the carpet, the time is now.
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And when I look at myself and I think about some of the episodes and conversations we've had over the past couple of months, and really leaning into our faith, and and you think about Charlie Kirk and the movement that's happened with Charlie Kirk, the revival in this country, and how many people started going to church because of that.
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And last week we talked about a tribute and honoring honoring the man and the family and the legacy and the things that he's done.
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I also felt there couldn't be a better tribute or way for me to honor somebody that I feel like has had a positive impact on on my life than by bucking up and going to church as well, right?
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So I thought for me that was also a good way and a great time for me to honor him and myself.
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And then I really put more thought into it and said, if I am a loving, supporting husband, then this is absolutely the time to go because you're on this journey and I can't let you go on that alone.
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And the service that happened for your mother, I was home with our daughter during that time.
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We didn't think it was a time or a place for Paisley.
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Right.
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And um, this is something that you wanted to handle, and um, I respected your wishes, and and I also had the assumption that the spiritual guidance, the faith that you needed wasn't gonna come from that service at a graveside.
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It was gonna come from a full-on church service.
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And that's how I knew we had to go on Sunday.
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Like this had to be you're you're creating closure on on Saturday, but you're you're creating opportunity and you're rewriting you on Sunday.
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And um, I know you said that like the actual service that you guys had on Saturday was there was no there was no preacher there, there was no no church uh prayer there, it was just you know friends and family.
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And um, so I think it was completely fitting that the next day we decided to to go to church.
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So I will emphasize the fact this is the first time in my adult life that I walked into a church when it wasn't a wedding or a funeral.
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It's also the first time as a family that we went to church, and when I say family, it was you, me, and our daughter that went to church.
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Yep, we brought Miss Paisley and she had the opportunity to go to her little Bible study, and it was awesome.
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They were very welcoming and And you know, from the moment that we walked into the church, they were uh super warm.
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There was a little old lady, I think her name was Sharon.
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Maybe Sandra, something like that, at the desk.
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She had a little name badge on and massive church, by the way.
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Massive church.
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Yeah.
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If you're from the area.
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What do they took over?
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Like a Bob's furniture or something.
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They took over a massive furniture outlet and turned it into a church.
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So when you go in, there's a you know, big entryway, greeting counter, like you're walking into a hotel room, you know, like a hotel lobby, I should say.
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Turf.
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Uh Astro Turf field in the middle.
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There's play yard for the kids.
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Um looks like a cafeteria, coffee shop scenario to the right of you.
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To the left is a two-level story to the auditorium that seats 1,400 people for a service.
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And then there's also like a play zone for kids with like I mean, we're talking fall-on jungle gym chucky cheese stuff.
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Literally.
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And you go over and check in your child there, and then you go through this um security gate, and it turns into uh a school.
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Beautiful schoolhouse.
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Yeah, like literally the walls are painted like a old town.
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And it's literally like third grade, second grade, they get all lined all the way up.
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And um, you know, we brought Miss Paisley in there, and um the lady that that you know received us was super, super warm and welcoming.
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And little Southern grandma.
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I mean, she did Little Mima.
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Yeah, she did great for 40, 45 minutes.
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Yeah.
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When we went to the city.
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And then I got a text message and it said, Miss Paisley's having a hard time.
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If you wouldn't mind come grabbing her, and I said, Absolutely.
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And when I went down to receive her, she uh literally was just like, please, please bring her back.
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She did so wonderful.
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And I was like, Well, this is the first time.
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And so she was so nice and so kind um with Miss Paisley.